MYM Your Business: The Brutal Truth : Episode 3: Put Your Agenda Aside, with Neal Sperling (2024)

Sep 6, 2017

Neal Sperling is the Founder andCEO of a global business strategic advisory service that hasadvised start-ups, mid-cap companies, non-profits, to very high networth individuals.

Neal has strategized and helpedhis clients solve often extremely complex and difficult businesschallenges, and then connected them to individuals who have changedtheir lives for the better, and has even helped them to fulfilltheir unique life's purpose; hence, he's been called a "World ClassProblem Solver" and a “World Class Connector.”

At last count, Neal hasconnected with over 50 billionaires, the President of the UnitedStates, U.S. Vice-President, various heads of state, primeministers, a five star military general, governors, mayors, AcademyAward-winning actors, directors, producers and 15 Nobel Laureates(inclusive of 9 Nobel Peace Prize Winners.)

Recently, Neal developed aseries of masterminds to reveal a number of relatively simpletechniques that can help anyone to think more abundantly, moreefficiently, and more successfully to become super competitive ."Supercreativity" aims to teach anyone how to break down,understand, and replicate the thinking processes, pathways, andapproaches consistently used by history's most innovative,successful thinkers – from DaVinci, Edison, Einstein, Tesla,Buckminster Fuller, Steve Jobs to Elon Musk.

The variety of approaches toinnovation and problem-solving Neal has made it his business toresearch, study, and replicate can help those facing commonchallenges in their everyday business, professional, and evenpersonal lives to more efficiently identify and resolve problems,uplevel their thinking skills and abilities, achieve greaterconfidence, and ultimately leapfrog ahead of virtually anycompetitor by looking at most any future challenge faced throughthe above "expanded eyes of genius."

Hi, it's Colin Sprake here and I'm super excited becausetoday we have a very special guest on MYM Your Business: The BrutalTruth, with myself Colin Sprake. Our guest today is Neal Sperling.We're going to take you on a journey today and really dig deep intobeing more successful and getting answers that you're looking for.Neal's been one of those people that I got to meet only reallyrecently.

In fact, he was on my stage at one of my big events herein Vancouver called Business Excellence, and the one thing thatreally impressed me about Neal is his heart and his soul and hisdedication to other people's success. The way he's done things -- Imean he spoke to me once on the phone recently about trust and hehas a great, amazing information and knowledge and just awesome atwhat he does. Neal, maybe you want to give us a little bit more ofan intro to who you are, so our listeners today can understandwhere you come from, what you do in just a short abbreviatedversion of who you are and your brilliance that you bring to thispodcast today.

Well thank you Colin, it's very,very flattering. I really appreciate it, and it's a great chance tobe here and share information with everybody out there. I guess I'mprimarily known as a world class connector, and a world classproblem solver. The world class connector brand was actually givento me by Robert Allan. I had a chance meeting with him and it ledto a meeting in his living room. After he looked at my card and metme for three hours, he said, "You know, you're not a businessdevelopment and marketing consultant," and I said, "I'm not?" Hesaid, "No, I think you're much more than that, you're a world classconnector."

I actually had to go home andlook up what that meant because what I'd been doing is essentiallysomething I've been doing all my life, which seeing theconnections, puzzle pieces, people and how things fit together andin the most optimal sense, so eventually I've taken that and builtthat into a career. I think I'm able to help people navigate andsee things more clearly from that perspective of how their ownpuzzle pieces and their own lives to fit in the most optimalsense.

Wow! That's awesome, and you know Neal, one of the bigthings for me which just fascinates me is absolutely how you arethat true connector and how you've even cared to meet with so manyamazing people as well. Maybe you could give our listeners today'ssome real insights into what does it truly mean to connect. Bigpeople talk about this being a connector. If we want people to getthe concepts, the understanding of what it truly means to connectwith somebody, maybe you can give us, one, two, or three amazingtips on how to be a really good connector, but a genuine, heartsense of connector. Not connecting because you hear from Neal todayon how to really connect, but because you've gotten you do it froma real heart sense of place. Can you give maybe one, two, threetips on how to be fantastic at connecting?

Yes, sure. I think it startswith being aware, and the more aware you are, the more successfulyou can be. Having that awareness really extends to several areas.First of, a lot of people when they hear about connecting it's kindof a fancy concept for them, and they immediately equate it withnetworking, or they'll equate it with communicating. No, actuallyit's different than that. Communicating is one facet of connecting.You can communicate but not necessarily connect. You can networkwith people, but not necessarily communicate or connect.

I think connecting takes it to adeeper level, and the connections really starts for me with beingan active listener, with being very aware of other people, takingthe owner self, my own agenda and focusing more in on the otherperson's agenda and trying to figure out not what they really want,but what they actually need. That becomes a place of authenticitywhen you meet them on that ground. By having a sense of what theycould really use, it is almost like you're getting beyond thesuperficiality in a very quick way to get to the core truths of whothey are.

They sense very often, I find,when you do that it's taking a little risk because you meet someoneearly on and they don't know where you are coming from or what youragenda is, but they instantly sense intuitively that you'reauthentic and you really want to help them, and it's almost likegiving them tough love or tough truth. Consequently when youestablish a rapport on that basis and early on, it builds a senseof trust and I think in accelerated way, that allows you toaccelerate the connection and the relationship.

That sounds awesome; for me it's so fascinating. I'mgoing to dig a little deeper into this because I've always believedthat you can be authentic in your connection or you should beauthentic in all of your connections, but for me, I'm a big fan ofgetting rid of the word authentic. I say often you get, you can geta person who's authentically inauthentic, which is a con artist. Ilove the two words, realness and vulnerability, because I thinkthat's really key that when you really connect with someone, youjust be real with them and be vulnerable. Be open to maybe somesuggestion, maybe some criticism, some feedback on differentthings. What would you say to that around the two keywords ofrealness and vulnerability?

Yes, I think that's absolutelytrue. I think the reason I use authentic is because it goes througha deeper level for me and how I look at it in that, when I'mlooking to be authentic, I'm expecting other people to come back atme and meet me in the same way. To be authentic, or have authenticconnection, you first have to authenticate the people. When I lookto people, put people in my own private network, I often say tofriends that I have or close friends I share, that I have friendsand then I have authentic friends, but the authentic friends havebeen authenticated. I really do believe on this friendship levelit's an important concept to understand, whether you're in businessor dealing with people outside of business, that you want to havepeople engaging with you at this level, where it builds andestablishes the trust.

I don't think that happenswithout you first kind of verifying each other, whether some peopledo it subliminally or I do it through various rules that I'vedeveloped as some of which I shared on your stage.

Absolutely. So the key thing for me and I suppose that'sreally, if you take it right into a business sense is, trueauthentic connections or realness and vulnerability, you go to thatdeeper level with people, and that's when people begin to know thatthey can trust you and then start to refer you out to theirfriends, their authentic connections, and what have you. I lovethis because for me that's how you grow your business really. Mostbusiness is not really what you know, but often who you know andhow authentic your relationships are with those people. What wouldyou say to that?

Absolutely, and I find that veryoften when I meet people, they find it refreshing that they sensethat I don't have hidden agendas. I'm really trying to get to thecore truth of what they need, and hoping that when they see thatand they're part of the minority people who have that enlightenedability to understand reciprocity, that they will reciprocate, andso I will always take the first action in that respect. I talkedabout Newton's third law, which is all about for every actionthere's an equal opposite reaction.

What I add to that is that youreally can't expect to receive an action until you first take one,so I'm always willing to be vulnerable and be real by basicallytaking that first action and then see how people show up. It leadsto that other chain of roles that I shared with you, which isbasically that it's all about consistency. As over time as you seehow people are consistently showing up responding to those actionsthat you initially take, provided they're acting in reciprocity andthey're real and they're vulnerable and they're basically sharingtheir real needs with you, I think you can build a strongfoundation of trust off of that basic platform.

Yes. I once read the book by Robert Cialdini,The Power of Persuasion. Thechallenging part is, to me it's really authentic reciprocity orreal reciprocity where you're doing things from a place of, "I'mdoing this to help this person," serve the person that I'm with,not doing because I expect something in return. That for me is whatI find so challenging in this world we live in right now. Everyonesays, "Well, the universe whatever you superior being is, when yougive you'll get 10 fold in return," but if you expect that all thetime, you actually don't get 10 fold in return. Most of you getnothing, so what fascinates me with the power of reciprocity is howmany people I think abuse reciprocity because they, or use it in amanipulative way, which I disagree with completely in business. Itshould all be about serving people first, and the reciprocity comesanyways. Yes, you want to add anything to that?

Actually I totally agree withit, but the key is how to decipher who you're dealing with. Ifyou're dealing with somebody who is a manipulator and they'reclever, and they use that to establish their own aims and agenda,or they have that service mentality. When I meet people, I try tomeet them at a place, again, first identifying their needs to seehow I can be helpful, I don't have expectations, and generally whenI'm in that frame of mind, I do find that the universe steps in andresponds or rewards me and sometimes in amazingly unexpectedways.

In terms of authenticatingwhether people are master manipulators or whether they're reallyshowing up from a place of true service, again, I just counselpeople to take it slow and observe carefully and see how theyconsistently show up. As I said when I was doing my talk with youfolks, one of the ways is just to look at not only what people sayand what they do, but also look at what they don't say and whatthey don't do because all those things give pieces of informationto you to then sort, mix together and see the consistency and howthey are operating with others.

Yes, absolutely, Neal, and I think that's theinteresting part here because, what we're talking about here todaycan be used in any part of your life. I think so many people don't,there are so many watching what people, you know do in theirrelationships. Their relationships with their child, with theirbusiness partner, with their life partner, customers what a view,that so many are focusing on what the person's doing as opposed tohow you can also you learn a lot about the person, like you saidNeal, of what the stuff they don't do is also very eye opening.Maybe they don't do the follow up, maybe there's no follow through,maybe they say certain things and don't do it. They say one thingand do something else. For our listeners out there, I want you toreally think about this in all your relationships because reallygetting that true connection to me is one of the most importantthings we can have in our lives.

I look at the relationship I have with my wife, it's adeep connection, but we give unconditionally to each other. There'sno I'm giving with an expectation in return. I give and it comes inabundance in return and I think that's for all the relationships wehave in our lives, for all our listeners out there. So, Neal, I'mgoing to get to ask you another nice, deep question on this, andreally if there was one piece of advice, of course you're known asthe global connector and Robert Kiyosaki or Robert Allan said intowards giving you that term, I would like you to maybe give ourlisteners maybe a key nugget of -- what would you consider thenumber one thing to being successful is? What would you, if youwere to say, "Colin, the number one thing in my life that I'velearned maybe in the last five years, 10 years" -- or maybe you'vedone it all your life -- what would you consider that number onething to be, that's got you to the success of where you aretoday?

Well, I think it's really twokeywords, discipline and consistency. You have to be disciplined inyour habits, you have to be disciplined in your judgment, you haveto be disciplined in your character and disciplined in yourtemperament. By doing that, you put structure around, for as Ishared again at your conference, four important qualities that makeup for success. Provided that's all done consistently and packagedup in that way, you become dependable in people's eyes. If youbecome dependable, you become trustworthy and you develop thatspeed of trust. Consequently, when you have that with people, it'sworth more than anything in the bank because they'll always come toyou and they won't have their guard up. Whether it's just to ask aquestion or they need a favor or they want to do something nice foryou in return, there's no guardedness about that and you createthis great ability to receive.

Well, you know that's fascinating for me, and if yousaid, and I love that. Consistency, I just don't know how manypeople out there, they just don't listen. They want to get resultsin their lives, but they do things for one or two weeks or maybeone or two months and then they fall off and they don't continuewith those items. I mean their consistency to me is one of the mostimportant things. To all our listeners out there, please make surethat you're understanding this, that you've got to be consistent inall your actions. You've got to consistently get out of bed, dothings every day towards the results that you want. If you fall offtrack and you let consistency even one or two days, where you justfall off track completely, you've got to get back on track and getthat consistency back. My consistency goal for you means you neverfall off track, that you actually stay on track and do whatever youneed to do to get to where you want to be.

Neal, in terms of something that you've maybe learnedyourself in the last five years, let's say because you've given meyour key nugget on already being dependable and consistent ineverything you do. What about in the last five years for you, whatis one of the key things you've learned that you go, "I wish everyother business owner knew this," or, "I wish they would get this,because if I knew it 25 years ago, I'd be in a different placecompletely, maybe financially, maybe success wise," whatever, it isfor you. What would that one nugget of advice be that you'velearned in the last five years, and maybe who was that advice fromthat you would say as being, well could have been a game changerfor you 20 or 30 years ago?

Well, I think it's a jumping uppoint, the law of attraction is real, but it comes at a price. Forme it's not just something that you think about, it's a mantra orit's an abstraction that you channel it, it's really about thediscipline and consistency and how you show up and how thatattracts light. In my TED Talk, I spoke about this and it wasinteresting. I identified the idea that when you show up you're notonly showing things overly, but in a sense subliminally. If peopleare sensing you have good character, good judgment, goodtemperament, good habits, those that also have those tenets withinthem and practice them, which are increasingly rare as you combinethem, will recognize that in you as they continue a conversation.Those that do those things at as increasingly higher level ofdiscipline and consistency will recognize you and want to be inyour orbit. That is the law of attraction.

The more that you practice theseprecepts and the more you do them consistently and increasinglyservice oriented ways, people who are also at that level ofconsciousness and awareness will recognize that in you, and youwill start attracting amazing people at that level in your orbit.When you are doing business with people of the exact same likemindedness, that truly is that kind of master mind mentality thatwas discussed 100 years ago, and it's really refreshing to haveenlightened people surrounding you to do business with.

Yes. You know that's what fascinates me is how manypeople -- Jim Rowan said it best -- you're the product of the fivepeople you hang out the most with in terms of any area of yourlife, and that fascinates me how many people want to take theirconnections to a higher level, they want to be more disciplined,have more consistency in their life, but they don't seem to getwhat it takes to get to that next level. Especially the law ofattraction where you stand back and you welcome in what needs, youwelcome in these people into your world.

When you play at that level, you attract more people atthat level and you play in complete integrity. It’s amazing thatthe kind of integrity people that you actually welcome into yourworld as well. I mean the law of attraction for me came only intomy life maybe 15 years ago. What I'm trying to say came in my lifeabout this every day because it didn't come in, it's always been inmy life. The misery I had in certain parts of my life is what I wastruly attracting into my life, so I realize that now, now I alsorealize, you know what, how powerful this tool is to really helpingyou get ahead. Every thought we have, every single thing we say isreally putting out what we really want in our life, so you have tobe really conscious of what we're thinking and what we're sayingand really getting into that next level, so.

It's a form of socialengineering and it's really engineering yourself. If you want to bethe CEO of your own life, which is how I look at myself as anentrepreneur, every morning I wake up I have a checklist of thingsthat I want to do. I don't always get completely through it, and Iactually sometimes may take myself outside and have a talk withmyself for not accomplishing my complete agenda, but I also givemyself a break because I know I did my very best. I'm anoverachiever, I set high goals and standards for myself ineverything I do, including all the things that I need to getthrough the day. The real point here is that, you have the abilityevery morning you wake up to decide who you're going to be and howyou can be the best you can be. The way to do that I believe isreally to set achievable goals for yourself, but the kind ofstandards also that you want to attract.

By shedding other types ofhabits and deficiencies and we all have them and continuing toperfect yourself, you become a perfectible organism that attractsthe same in other people. For example, I can look back on my lifeand say that I've had the privilege of getting to know amazingpeople, academy award-winning actors, billionaires, Nobel Prizewinners. They didn't know who I was, they didn't necessarily knowmy resume, they didn't necessarily know my accomplishments, butthey were attracted to these facets and particularly myvalues.

I remember when I was in myearlier political fundraising days, I was invited to the homes ofpreliminaries and power brokers, but none of that was important interms of what they did for a living. It was all sharing a commonpassion, a common philosophy, a common values and it was like thisvery level playing field discussions one on one, where nobody wasreally interested in those other affectations. They really justwant to know about the core of who you are, whether they liked youand could relate to you, and I think really that is a lot of thesecret.

Yes, you know what I think, I absolutely agree with youon that, because it fascinates me. I'm a big fan of values, corevalues because that's what really attracts us to people or oftenrepels us from people, depending on what their values are. We’vegot together and we've done work together now, because we havesimilar values. If we didn't have similar values, you would eitherthink I'm a jerk and you don't want to work with me, or what aview, I'd either repel you, attract you and vice versa. I'm such abig believer in values, and I wish more people would understandthat values are what drive us, and values are what really createfor me in many ways, really good part of your connection too ishaving the right people around you with the rightvalues.

I really hope our listeners out there are reallythinking this through and taking some detailed notes because whatare your values? What's important to you? What's core to you as ahuman being? I think that for me, you just hit the nail on the headaround, we really need to get in touch with our values. I thinksometimes people in partnerships, business partnerships, lifepartnerships, sometimes split apart because their values in someway or form change. When you don't have the same values betweenyou, the chance of really staying together or having a really truedeep relationship I think disappears. What are your thoughts onthat?

Well, exactly and interestinglyenough I could amplify on that one. When I gave my TED Talk, one ofthe points that I made that I think really resonated with people isthat, common interest bring people together. So often we're focusedon more of those superficial qualities or the common interest thatwe have strictly with merchants and acquisitions in companies,they're not really looking at corporate culture. They're looking atthe synergies between the products they make and the customers theyservice, but they're not looking at the underlying, underpinnings.For me as I said, common interests may bring people together, butit's common values, common perspective and common personalitiesthat keep people together.

Yes, absolutely. You know Neal, as we get into thistoday, it's been my privilege to be on this call with you and it'sto go through really understanding more about who you are. You arean extremely wise and smart man, and what's one, another piece ofwisdom that you would want to share with our listeners that youwould consider to be, maybe not just around success. To me successis a globe, like a really broad term of success in any area of yourlife, but what would be the one thing that you would say, "You knowwhat, here's something, a golden nugget that I'd love to share withyour listeners to really have them get that next level in theirlife whatever they're looking for." What would be that goldennugget that is just something that is so wow for you to help ourlisteners to get to that next level themselves?

Well, I think the core of mysuccess at least with connecting with people is I trace back -- Ispoke about it on stage to your audience -- to my mom. I alwaysmarvel that the idea that even though she was a secretary and sheworked a difficult job, that she attracted people. She actuallyworked at a film studio, that she attracted people who were notjust on her level. She had experiences where she would work for oneday for her producer and years later, after years have passed shegot sick, she had cancer, it was a rare cancer. She suffered andshe passed away.

It was interesting to me thatthe chiefs of the studio, legendary producers she worked for, forone day, famed actors, all insisted that they have a service forher at the studio, she was treated like a head of state. The reasonwas, that she instantly befriended people and everyone knew thatshe was real, and that she cared. The secret that I learned as Ireflected on and after she passed away, which has influenced mylife is that she looked at everybody as an opportunity. Not anopportunity for herself, but an opportunity to do work like in agarden, where she realized that many people who she saw, mosteveryone else saw them as bitter or angry or difficult people, shesaw as wounded. She saw that somewhere in their childhood somethinghappened and that wounded-ness was being carried through the restof their lives like a bear that had a stick in their paw and no onecould see that. All they see is the angry bear.

It was her almost mission to getto know people, the most difficult cantankerous people she insistedon sitting next to in her secretarial pool, who didn't have anyfriends. She would meet them where they stood and just try toaccept them and try to accept that wounded-ness and find what theroot was, and people of course who are wounded are looking forsomeone to talk to, and the next thing you know, it was like shewas plucking the weeds out of a garden and allowing the rest of thegarden to flourish. Then she transformed people and she had thattransformative effect with whoever she worked with.

The point that I wanted to getto was that, at the end of her life, she never had an enemy. Idon't know about you Colin, but I rarely have ever met anyone likethat, just because she happened to be my mum was special, but ithad a tremendous impact on me that someone could be that pure andput their own agenda aside. If anything if they had an agenda, itwas just basically to do some healing work with other peoplewithout any expectation and to attract that kind of residentresponse. I think people could apply some of those lessons in theirown life, in their business life and their personal life to enhancetheir ability to achieve connectedness and succeed and therelationships, which ultimately is what this is about.

Absolutely. What a great story, thank you for that andwhat a special person your mom must have been. I would have lovedto have met her and what a view as well, because you thatfascinates me Neal. I was in Moscow maybe 15 years ago and I wasstanding out there waiting for a train. The gentleman next to mewho used to work for us in Moscow said to me, "Colin, you knowwhat, all human beings are greedy. It's just the level of greedthat differs from one to the other."

I actually pondered that and I still ponder that stillto this day because I don't necessarily believe it's greed. Itsounded like your mom was a person of zero greed, was just someonethat was beautiful, giving, caring, and wanted to make a change onthis planet and a change on that person's life that she sat withand directly impacted them in some way or form. Wow, howawesome.

Well, yes. Gandhi said it best,“Be the change you want to see in the world,” and we all have thatopportunity. I don't even know if she ever read Gandhi, but sheepitomized those values in that perspective and her personality wasone of basically just wanting to be a better gardener, and she didthat.

She sure did. Wow, she sure did man, and what a pleasureto grow up in that environment. I wish many people were able togrow up in that similar environment, because wow, many of us, Ithink there's many lessons out there that have lots of weeds intheir gardens growing, "I wish I could actually meet Neal's mom soshe could pluck the weeds out of my garden."

She never judged other people,and she realized she couldn't do that because she hadn't walked intheir shoes. I think it's really important because people show upand we get these superficial impressions of each other and veryoften it goes back to that protective sense that we had going backto the days when we were out there with these wild beasts and youdon't know what you're dealing with.

One of the interesting thingsthat I got about that -- that I didn't get to talk about in mystage discussion with the audience -- is that, I had an experienceand I think it directly relates to this. I always try to learnsomething from wherever I'm at and whatever facet of learning I cando to add to myself and then share back. I happen to be at anonprofit that was working to protect endangered wildlife and thatled to that slide that I did with you folks about branding andpreserving the orangutan, the endangered orangutan. Here's what isinteresting, most people kind of pass that over.

I thought it's fascinating thatthe organizations devoted to saving these orangutans in the wild isthe second largest rainforest in the world, they brought a pointforward to me that I never forgot. Orangutan have 97% of human DNA.They are 97% like us, but the thing that we distinguish when welook at them goes back to that same quality that we needed topreserve ourselves in the wild, we look at the differences and welook at how different the orangutan is from us even though they're97% like us. If you take that to the next level when we're lookingat people in business, we look at people in politics, we look atpeople who are different races, different creeds, we're alwaysfirst seizing upon the differences. Wouldn't it be a much morewonderful and special world that we could live in if we started tofirst try to look at the similarities and we have that commonground to work from?

We are headed for a terribletime as I'm reading the newspapers right now in the world and in atremendous war that could escalate simply because everyone isdoubling down and focusing on the differences between us. It's thesame principle that we can apply in business to attract greaternumbers of like minded people and a movement will be sparked by aperson of one. I do believe and one of the things I'm lookingforward to as one of my goals, is to create a greater movement ofawareness for everyone to start looking more at the similaritiesthan the differences. Imagine the conflicts that could be reduced,the number of court cases that could be eliminated that areclogging up our legal system, that people just start off from aplace of that.

Wow! I absolutely agree with you on that. For me it's, Isay that the world is, we've lost three amazing words in this worldin so many ways and form, and those three words are, respect,responsibility and commitment. If we all took responsibility forour actions we wouldn't have half the lawsuits that are happeningout there or pray most of them if we all respected each other andeach others' property and truly respected them or committed, I evensound silly just saying this, committed to our commitments, lifewould be different. While that is just great advice for people outthere to really start to really look at, what are the similaritiesyou have with other people, not looking at the differences youhave.

Everyone's busy focusing on, I think it's all the timeback to the way that Neal, so people say, "Well there's 60% chanceof rain today in the weather forecast." No, there's actually 40%chance of sunshine with no rain.

That is exactly the point, itgets back to, how do you see the world? Are you an optimist? Areyou a pessimist? There are so many people who live in fear andscarcity and that drives their decisions in business, so they wantto get the last crumb, they want to out negotiate you, they want toout maneuver you and everyone is on their guard and in agendas,like attracts like, Newton's third law.

If you take the reverse thoughtprocess, and try to see how we can create a situation where it'snot about me first, but about we first, and how we can worktogether to resolve a problem and that's basically what this is. Itold you, I'm a person who enjoys puzzles, and it's really aboutsolving puzzles, solving challenges, solving problems, but youcan't do that from this even subconscious adversarial mindset. Youreally have to start thinking not about scarcity but abundance, andthinking about how the universe, the world we operate in, thebusinesses that we practice are not closed systems. They can beopened up and it's like I often share with people, if you'relooking about the pie and how to divide up the pie, why are youlimiting yourself to that one view point? What if you were toinvest and work together in a bakery that could bake lots of pies,right? Or you can enlarge the pie, you can bake a bigger pie, youjust expand the oven, I mean et cetera, et cetera.

It's a metaphorical approach,but it really is about that. It's, limits to growth will limit ourability to grow and our ability to succeed, but if you take off theceiling off the limits and start thinking abundantly and morecreatively, which is what was at the heart and soul of my talk,then I really believe it's an opportunity and a journey foreveryone to improve and enjoy their time well while they arehere.

Well, Neal, I know we're getting close to the end here.For me, that's why I think everyone should be looking at life andfor our listeners out there, raised on to look at, how do you wakeup in the morning? What do you think about when you wake up in themorning? Are you optimistic? Are you pessimistic? Do you wake up inthe morning knowing that you have certain disciplines? Are yougoing to get consistency up in your life? Or are you waking up andjust doing things that will never serve you to a higher place ofwhere you truly want to be? I want people to really think aboutthat.

Neal, I really, really appreciate you being live withme, because number one, I care for you dearly, I love who you are,I love the teachings and the brilliance of who you are. If peoplewant to learn more about you, where could they find moreinformation about you Neal and what you do?

Thank you, that's very kind. Mywebsite is www.worldclassconnections.comand I'm considering to add to mylibrary I'm out there now on YouTube having done some interviewsand looking forward to doing more speaking et cetera.

Fantastic Neal. Neal I really appreciate your time, it'sbeen my privilege to actually do this interview with you. I trustthat listeners got a ton of value. Most important thing, and you'llhear this in the extra listeners, is make sure you take action,even one or two nuggets that you get from today, make sure youimplement it, because remember knowledge is not power, knowledge isonly potential power. Implementation is where the power is, sothank you so much for being on with us, thank you for listening.Make sure you're listening next week as well, and if you haven't,make sure you go back to the previous podcast, listen to theearlier episodes. Neal thank you so much for being on, thank youfor your time and thank you for blessing us with yourbrilliance.

It's been an honor and aprivilege and I wanted to say, I am so impressed with you and Ilook forward to many happy years of getting to know you evenbetter.

Thank you so much and I look forward to connectingdeeper with you as well. Thank you so much Neal.

Thank you, thank you verymuch.

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Name: Trent Wehner

Birthday: 1993-03-14

Address: 872 Kevin Squares, New Codyville, AK 01785-0416

Phone: +18698800304764

Job: Senior Farming Developer

Hobby: Paintball, Calligraphy, Hunting, Flying disc, Lapidary, Rafting, Inline skating

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